Greg Bahnsen – Defending the Christian Faith (part 5)
Dr. Greg L. Bahnsen – Basic Training for Defending the Faith. Defending the Christian Faith – part five of five.
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Categories: Christian Faith Tags: apologetics, atheism, Christianity, Craig, Dawkins, debate, Harris, hovind, Lane, philosophy, TAG, William
Morality comes from …
Morality comes from your parents. To be taught right from wrong is a lesson some people heed whilst others treat it with contempt. Religion is the same. We are all taught the rights and wrongs of life and religion but what we do with that knowledge when we grow up depends on the type of person you are.
Bahnsen admits his …
Bahnsen admits his apologetic is basically ineffectual and probably won’t have many converts.
read my above …
read my above comment on self awareness. if you truly understand it it will help you in your arguments. The problem is, most people don’t understand it.
I have a morality …
I have a morality bush in my backyard. Whenever I need morals, I just go out back & pick a few off the bush.
The big ones are heavy.
People have morals …
People have morals because Zeus will punish them if they do the wrong thing.
you still haven’t …
you still haven’t answered my chanllege how do you as a atheist expalin the nature of morals and where do they come from? are morals material or immaterial in nature, do they come from people or social constructs or God.
again I think U …
again I think U missed my point I,m refering to animals that kill other animals not animals in their own flock what I am saying is this, does the Lion think it’s wrong to kill the deer or does he thinks it’s OK I think you and I both know the answer to that.
where is their since of morality toward other animals plus watch the discover channel sometimes animals kill their own, animals and humans are vastly different.
Yes, I think it is …
Yes, I think it is highly thinkable that an animal that kills within its flock will under some circumstances get excluded from the flock. I don’t know if this actually happens, but my point is that I would not be surprised if this would be the case, i.e. I don’t really see any difference in principle between humans and other mammals.
Here is my …
Here is my chanllege to you elucidate(explain) what is the nature of morality and where does it comes from?
I think it is truth …
I think it is truth that animals have some self-awareness and care for each other but again you must explain as a atheist where do humans and animals get there self-awareness and positive character traits from, plus do think that animals have morals do you think that the lion believes its wrong to kill another animal but us humans believe it’s wrong to kill another human, animals dont use logic or function on the same level of intelligibility as humans do.
Of course I don’t …
Of course I don’t claim that slime has self-awareness. But obviously there are other animals – mainly mammals – who seem to care about the wellbeing of other members of their community or surroundings. It seems straightforward to extrapolate these animal behaviors into the different aspects of human behavior.
here is what I dont …
here is what I dont understand if you believe in evolution and natural selection explain what or who was during the selecting, because if you believe that we evoluted out of some slim that mutated into living cells explain how does these cells have the self-awareness and aptitude to care or feel at what stage in the evolutionary process do U get conscienceness where does it come from
Of course I can! It …
Of course I can! It is very simple. It’s one of the most obvious examples of evolution by natural selection: caring about each other has helped our ancestors to survive.
I think you are …
I think you are totally missing the point,let me explain. without God what rational reason do you have for beleveing in good or evil how do you account for morality, knowlege or ethics from your atheistic worldview explain were these things come from, without the christian God you can’t explain where these truths come from or account for the nature of them
So I guess I won.
So I guess I won.
What do you mean …
What do you mean with “without the Christian god you can’t prove anything”? If nothing can be proven without the Christian god, then nothing can be proven WITH the Christian god either. The statement is just complete nonsense. Admit it or explain it!
I think what you …
I think what you fell to understand is that the christian is not to convince you,but to show you that without the christian God you cant prove anything, I assume that you are a athesit, U said that his argument wouldn’t make sense to a rational person, were do you get the idea of being rational or irrational how do you make sense out rationality as a atheist
“I’m also aware of …
“I’m also aware of the fact that the TAG, like all other Christian ‘Arguments’, does NOT prove the existence of God.”
I would like to know how, coming from a worldview that operates under the concept that God is non-existant, you can know whether an argument has or hasn’t proven God. If in your wordlview, you have no concept of God and therefore no knowledge of or about Him, how can you rationally argue a Christian’s argument doesn’t prove God?
First I want to …
First I want to hear how fishboi87 thinks he is able to “shut the mouths” of atheists.
Well, you certainly …
Well, you certainly haven’t explained anything yet, why start now. If you wanna pick a fight, come get it, but reading your few comments here, I have a hunch that you know next to nothing about any the topics involved a discussion like this. You might be better off reading a bit than sharing what is obviously just prejudicial conjecture.
Well, you certainly …
Well, you certainly haven’t explained anything yet, why start now. If you wanna pick a fight, come get it, but reading your few comments here, I have a hunch that you know next to nothing about any the topics involved a discussion like this. You might be better off reading a bit than sharing what is obviously just prejudicial conjecture.
To a5dr3: fishboi87 …
To a5dr3: fishboi87 didn’t tell us how he is able to “shut the mouths of atheists”, did he? I don’t think I need to explain anything until I get an answer from fishboi87.
There is no …
There is no discernable difference between different faiths? Yeah, also all black people look the same. -Thanks so much for refuting Bahnsen. Presuppositionalism is nonsense. Great argument, do you have a book out?
Why don’t you give …
Why don’t you give an argument or explain your position instead of just vacant criticism? Why should anyone care what your personal opinion is?
This guy is a total …
This guy is a total idiot. You can’t make sense out of the Christian worldview as a Christian or an atheist. Speak for yourself Bahnsen. Don’t say you guys are rational because of your faith and everyone else isn’t when there is no discernable rational difference between them. Presuppositionalism is completely irrational and nonsensical. You have to be a total idiot to fall for this BS.